This interview originally appeared in the April 5, 2007 issue of The Stage
Executive producer of Doctor Who Julie Gardner tells Scott Matthewman about the changes being made to the show, in front of and behind the camera, including a welcome move to larger production studios
Julie Gardner spends a lot of time on Doctor Who in her role as executive producer. “It’s pretty much a full, one-year job just to get each series to air. I look at rushes when we’re filming every day, I’ll read every single draft of every script and do a lot of meetings with the writers.”
Although that may be enough for most people, Gardner has other roles to fill, too. As well as executive producing Doctor Who spin-offs Torchwood and CBBC’s Sarah Jane Adventures, she is controller of drama for BBC Wales and, since last year, controller of drama commissioning at the BBC. “It’s quite a big workload,” she admits wryly, “but I think everyone working in the industry who really loves their job, as I completely do, works incredibly hard.
“What I no longer do is personally executive produce indie shows. I was the executive producer of Life on Mars, alongside John Yorke. I don’t do that in such a hands-on way for individual projects. So that’s what gives me the time. But I’m a bit obsessive – I mean, what else would I do?”
Moving the three Doctor Who series to their own production studios in Upper Boat has helped tremendously, she says. “We spent a very good couple of years in a warehouse in Newport, but very, very quickly the scale of what we were trying to achieve on Doctor Who meant we were outgrowing the space available to us.”
The complex contains meeting rooms and edit suites, alongside the studio spaces. “There was a brilliant moment for Russell [T Davies] and me very early on in our filming of Torchwood, where we were able to come out of one development meeting, go in to the edit, see some rushes, then go straight on set and talk to the director about what we’d seen. It was absolutely seamless.
“Anything that makes the communication easier and makes people efficient always will have an impact on the on-screen value. The more slick you are as a production, the better.”
There are changes in front of the camera, too. This week saw the debut of Freema Agyeman as the Doctor’s new companion Martha Jones, with some very large Billie Piper-shaped shoes to fill. Comparing the two roles, Gardner says: “There are things in common, but [Martha] is a very different character. She’s still modern, she’s feisty and she’s clever. Of course, she develops a different relationship with the Doctor to the one Rose had, but she’s there to remind us what it is to be human, travelling in this extraordinary way, with this extraordinary man.”
And just as we think we know how the two characters work together, Gardner says the TARDIS will be shaken up by the return of previous companion Captain Jack Harkness, played by John Barrowman. “Captain Jack is in three episodes of this season – episodes 11, 12 and 13 – and it’s a joy seeing him back. It’s been a brilliant thing to see him on the rushes. He’s just a marvellous, marvellous presence to have. The dynamic in the TARDIS between Jack, the Doctor and Martha is fantastic.”
And it sounds like Jack will lose some of the more burdensome character traits he picked up as leader of Torchwood Cardiff in BBC3’s hit series. “Russell’s written those episodes. He absolutely knows that character and it’s utterly consistent with what you’d want, having seen him in Doctor Who. And it’s fun, and he’s heroic and gorgeous and there’s a lot going on there still.”
Torchwood itself has been recommissioned, this time for BBC2, with the second series not appearing until January 2008. “Last year, we started filming in March and we were on air with 13 episodes from late September, which was just so, so hectic. And we didn’t really have enough time – it was absolutely frantic from day one of prep, it was all hands on deck.
“And so, it just works for the BBC2 schedule that we can go in January. So it’ll just give us a little bit more time in our post-production. Which would be lovely, because we were delivering an episode every single week for transmission. It was incredibly tight. So it was just as well we didn’t have any lastminute technical difficulties last year.”
On the technical side, Torchwood was filmed in high definition, while its parent show is still recorded on standard digibeta. Gardner believes that Doctor Who isn’t ready for HD yet. “It would take more time for us to do our post-production and I think it would be more costly. And I genuinely love the look that we’ve managed to achieve with our DOPs, and our grade on Doctor Who.
“Also we do so many effects on Doctor Who, compared with Torchwood. I can’t think what the exact ratio is, but if we’re doing a hundred effects on an episode of Doctor Who, we’re doing 20, or ten, on Torchwood. And so the time it would take us for Doctor Who would really delay our schedule quite significantly at the moment. So we’re happy with our digibeta look on season three.”
The production of Doctor Who, since its revival in 2005, is probably one of the best documented in British television. Behind the scenes documentary series Doctor Who Confidential returns for a third 13-part series this year, with children’s magazine show Totally Doctor Who also returning for a second series. Gardner admits that, while she knew that the series meant a lot to fans when she started working on it four years ago, the level of interest in the production process continues to take her by surprise. “When you then see the interest, I understand it because the process of our filming is genuinely fascinating, in terms of prosthetics, CGI and how we put this kind of show together. I know that [producer] Phil Collinson and I find it surprising when people know our names. I’ve never had that.”
In terms of faces in front of the camera, the series continues to attract some high-profile names. From Anne Reid as a blood-sucking plasmavore in last weekend’s opening episode, and Dean Lennox Kelly as a raffish Will Shakespeare this Saturday, to Derek Jacobi and John Simm in mysterious roles near the end of the series, Gardner says the level of casting has been one of the great joys of her career. “Andy Pryor is a fantastic casting director and we’re just incredibly fortunate that we can get actors of such range and calibre.”
She says that there are many reasons why actors are quick to say yes to a guest spot, whether it’s nostalgia for a series they grew up with, or the thrill of being in a series that their own children can enjoy. “I think they also get to play characters, monsters and villains in a way that they’re not offered anywhere else. I mean, look at Sarah Parish [as the Empress of the Racnoss in the 2006 Christmas special]. She just had a blast playing that.
“So I think it’s for all kind of reasons. If you’re a guest character on Doctor Who, it’s a short commitment. If you’re only in one episode, you’re going to be in across two weeks, and you’re going to be opposite David Tennant and Freema, and I hope it’s going to be a great experience.”
With a fourth series now confirmed, I ask if she or Davies will be continuing with the series. “Do you know, I think we’ll all be dragged off on stretchers – you’d have to take us away,” she says. “We love the show. Everyone who works on the show loves the show. David and Freema absolutely love every day they come in on set. And I know that sounds like the Waltons, but it’s a joy – and so it’ll be quite hard to get us all off.”